Guns and Butter Uncensored: An interview with Gary Null, Ph.D. on Vaccines and SB277 - Part One

Two weeks ago, Guns and Butter was censored when trying to have Gary Null, Ph. D. on air live to discuss the issue of vaccines and specifically SB277. This is the California State Senate bill that will remove all religious and philosophical exemptions from parents of children attending public or private school. It will essentially mandate vaccinations for all children under the current California schedule and force parents to choose between vaccinating their kids, homeschooling or moving out of state.

Unfortunately, KPFA listeners were denied the opportunity to hear the facts and information about vaccines including safety, efficacy, legal issues and the corruption and collusion of the pharmaceutical industry, politicians, government officials and the media. Guns and Butter cannot and will not be censored by KPFA or anyone else.  The interview was recently conducted by Bonnie Faulkner and Gary shares with us his incredible knowledge of this subject that is not to be missed.

Vaccines: What You Are Not Being Told - Part One is the first hour of this two-hour interview and is now available for listening or download.  Be sure to also read Gary's response to Laura Prives, Program Director at KPFA regarding the censorship of Guns and Butter.

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Shirley - May 22nd, 2015 at 12:56am

Failure to vaccinate%u2014say for measles%u2014more than 1 or 2% of children statewide is the way almost to guarantee there will be an epidemic in the state and unvaccinated children and adults will be infected with measles and face all the dangers that carries%u2014far more risky by multiples than if there is not a large pool of non-vacinated people. The chances of a vaccine harming a person are miniscule. Only people who are allergic to the inert carrier of the vaccine should be allowed to skip. That would be such a small percentage than no danger from or to an unvaccinated person would ensue, more than likely.

Jerry Chamkis - May 23rd, 2015 at 12:53am

Is thimerosal still added to vaccines?

Gary Evans - May 23rd, 2015 at 4:21pm

Gary Null's gift of gab is so strong that he appears to believe his own rhetoric. If you pay attention to how he derives his opinions, you'll spot how superficial is his analysis and how tortured is his logic. Bonnie has in the past given us great interviews - loaded with insight, but now that she has taken up with anti-science rhetoricians, those days appear to be long gone.

Fred Wolters - May 24th, 2015 at 2:54pm

I listen to Null's "The Gary Null Show" almost every day, and I believe I have benefited greatly from listening to him. The one hour show (every weekday) is a mix of latest health and nutrition information (all documented as to source, usually a university study), short rants by Null on anti-imperialism, the Democratic party, climate catastrophe, and other subjects dear to my heart, and interviews with people I like to hear such as John Pilger, David Ray Griffin, Alan Grayson, and many more (usually one 25 interview each show). Besides just writing in general support of Null, I have another reason: I would like to find a forum where Gary Null's show is discussed. Perhaps that's available on his Facebook account, but I refuse to join Facebook, so I can't go there. I feel that if Gary Null has one main fault, it's that he provides so much information that there is not an easy way to find out more about. For example, as I said above, he'll quote from a university study and it would be nice to easily find the study without having to go to some university page and try to look up the study. Or he'll talk a supplement program to help avoid Alzheimer's, and it would be nice to be able to go somewhere to discuss the program in more detail. Obviously, this page is not the place to talk about Null's work in detail, but I'm hoping someone who reads this here might be able to direct me a place on the web where discussion of Null and his work takes place.

Sandra Morey - May 25th, 2015 at 11:29am

Guns and Butter has always been a forum for unusual and provocative programming and I feel that it should not be censored. I look to KPFA to present all kinds of issues, some I agree with and some I don't. Wherever one comes down on the issue of vaccination, isn't it imperative that we have safe vaccines? If a vaccine isn't safe, it should be revealed to be so and it must be fixed. Transparency is imperative for this process. I'm with Fred Wolter's comment. I also will not participate in Facebook for reasons dating way back before Facebook was a gleam in anyone's eye. I have never heard Gary Null and I can't speak from how I feel about him. But I laud Bonnie for trying to present his ideas, which I doubt that I would agree with. I often disagree with material on Guns and Butter, but I value that program as being one of the finest that KPFA has to offer.

Canary in the Coalmine - May 27th, 2015 at 5:15pm

@Shirley: Reacting adversely to toxic substances, like mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, MSG, and other chemicals in vaccines, is not an "allergy". It's a toxic reaction. If you eat rat poison and get sick or die, it's not due to an "allergy", but because you've been poisoned. If everyone is exposed to poison, everyone is at risk of injury.

Cathy Talbott - May 27th, 2015 at 6:39pm

I have been a follower of Gary Null since the early 1970"s. Since I am a natural born skeptic, I have always questioned the status quo on everything in our modern world. I have researched much of what Gary says on this show and there is plenty of scientific data to back him up. He is not frivolous in his statements. I have years in the alternative health field and have seen many, many people healed through alternative treatments and have talked to many who chose not to vaccinate their children. They are healthy and vibrant beings. Of course, their parents also feed them healthy foods and stay away from fast foods and processed foods. Do a little research yourselves before you dismiss what Gary is saying. He's at the top of my "trust" list of experts.

Mary - May 30th, 2015 at 5:47am

I was amazed to hear such an in depth, research referenced talk on vaccines. I've had my doubts about vaccines because of the autism invariably associated with them and because of their mercury content. But I was shocked at the content of Null%u2019s talk. He was articulate and logical and well researched. I too had measles as a child and wonder why there is a need for vaccines for it. What a load of fuss about nothing! However, it was only 6 years ago when I had fibromyalgia, fibrocystic breast disease etc etc that my total faith in mainstream medicine was shattered when my GP threw her hands up and tossed me out because all my bloods came back "normal". Since then I have discovered alternative approaches including supplementing with iodine in high doses (currently taking 50mg/day = 330 times the RDI) and I no longer get colds or flu or tummy bugs or any other infections, and I raised my metabolic rate with a fabulous herb (ashwagandha) thus preventing regaining the hard lost weight. I've been comfortably slim, bounding in energy and sleeping wonderfully for the past 5 years and no longer have trouble maintaining my weight. (Also cured the Fibromyalgia and FBD etc.) There are so many fabulous minerals and herbs that we can all use to maintain our health without drugs and vaccines!!!

Mary - May 30th, 2015 at 5:49am

Does anyone know if there is a transcript of the two parts of this interview? If so I'd love a copy!!! Gary Null packed in so much in a short space of time...

jomo - May 31st, 2015 at 5:16am

people familiar with gary null and his work know he has more integrity then anyone else regarding health and nutrition and his opinions are based on science and not profit. that he gets attacked from most likely paid trolls does not surprise anyone who is the tiniest bit informed regarding corrupt politicians and their corporate masters that push their junk on the gullible public buttressed by unrelenting MSM propaganda. the issue is simple....if you love your children you will fight against their being vaccinated and if you dont care about your kids you wont care if they get vaccines.

Shannon - June 2nd, 2015 at 5:08pm

#SB277 is the worst written bill in California's history as it discriminates against those with religious beliefs and eliminates a parents choice of medical freedom. This law, should it pass will no doubt cause the California tax payers huge amounts of money as I can predict many lawsuits in the making. How dare our legislators get in the middle of a doctor/patient relationship. Injection without consent is battery and to fail our children of a fair right to an education is like saying - we give up ... just kill us now. I am disappointed that your station refuses to see both sides of the table since I am a parent with two vaccinated children who this law will not affect. I am however, a tax payer and I am sick of the hand outs all the hands of bad lawmakers who continually rob us of our rights. This bill is about CIVIL RIGHTS!